$5 a gallon of gasoline in 2012? I love it!!

Some of us remember the 1974 oil problem, and made changes accordingly.  Accepting and dealing with a problem helped me; I am ready!  I also think $5. gas might be more helpful than many people think!

Kind of a bummer, I might not be able to buy an imitation Iphone.  But I will survive. 

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Originally Posted by DanaBASE 

We can now personally reduce the impact we have on the environment in terms of the amount of greenhouse gasses we produce without purchasing a new car. 

I can certainly agree with that sentence!  But you just cannot survive without a car-  but actually; I can.  Human Powered Vehicles are used all the time- bikes, adult or kid trikes, velomobiles, scooters,wheelchairs, skateboards, roller skates, or so on.  My trike uses no gas, neither does my velomobile or my wheelchair.  My car is great for collecting dust!  I hope it still runs......  

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Originally Posted by counterstrike 

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Originally Posted by DanaBASE 

We can now personally reduce the impact we have on the environment in terms of the amount of greenhouse gasses we produce without purchasing a new car. 

I can certainly agree with that sentence!  But you just cannot survive without a car-  but actually; I can.  Human Powered Vehicles are used all the time- bikes, adult or kid trikes, velomobiles, scooters,wheelchairs, skateboards, roller skates, or so on.  My trike uses no gas, neither does my velomobile or my wheelchair.  My car is great for collecting dust!  I hope it still runs......  

It sounds like you must live somewhere wonderful to be able to leave the car parked most of the time! I think it is great for those who can!

So many of us cant I have an injury that pervents me from much exercize  never mind that it is -26 out with more then 2ft of snow!!!

So Dana your product looks like a great start for trying to green up what you have to use to get get around. So Many people have to start somewhere and drastic changes are to much so its a wonderful Idea that will incourage even more change =)

I agree. You must leave the car at home if you can. But many people use their cars even if they go to the next corner.

I walk 30 minutes to get my job, I prefer this. But people in the neiborghood goes to work by car.

Hi there, new here, but just found this forum today - great discussions.

I'm in Scotland and the petrol and diesel prices here are astronomical in comparison to US prices (GBP£1.35 to £1.40 per litre for diesel, that's GBP£5.30 per US gallon, which is ~USD$8.67 or thereabouts per US gallon). I think this is more like where the US gas price will end up in about three to four years' time.

The effect is frankly crippling. My commute to work, for which public transport would take about 2 hours each way, costs me a fortune, approx GBP£60 per week, and that's in a car that does 60+mpg. Public transport would cost me roughly the same but without the flexibility.

I understand the argument for hiking petrol prices but here in the UK, it's been done over a number of years with a fuel escalator tax as suggested above, but without investment in viable public transport systems outside of city centres. I'd love to leave my car at home but just can't. I have three young kids and an average 9 hour day would turn into 13 hours ...5 days per week, meaning I'd never see the family and would spend my entire life on buses or trains and I wouldn't even be any better off financially.

For me, the more effective method is the application of emissions targets for all new vehicles that will see the current fleet of cars on the road gradually replaced over time - but it takes time. Also electric cars are still non-viable for commuting, while most hybrid cars don't offer any more mpg or efficiency than a good turbo diesel at the moment. To get people to pay the higher purchase prices, the efficiency gains have to be a no-brainer.

I just don't get the whole object of companies developing car that run on bio-diesel, hydro or electric(I know their are electric cars) just to sell the plans to a oil company. So, they can put it in a safe for 2000 years and never actually create the fuel.

I think $5 gas would be healthy for us. No one will push for change until the gas runs out or becomes prohibitively expensive!

I see a variety of concerns - and benefits - and disadvantages about a gas hike.

1.  Some people would be at a severe disadvantage with families to feed if they commute.  On the other hand, the long term change to a more local social-eco-system where people could walk or bike to work, would be healthy for people and healthy for nature.

2.  An increase in gasoline would also result in higher prices in the retail market.  The USA relies upon imports, logistics, delivery - and that would drive prices through the roof - and it has in the past.  This will hurt consumers as well as small businesses.  

As for myself?  Yes - lol - I own a bike, roller blades, and jogging sneakers.  I work from my home office whenever possible.  I happily walk to the local corner store and save gasoline and score a little exercise - and I must state that I don't live in a city where the store is around the corner, I'm in the suburbs, and it's a hike.  I already feel that gasoline prices are too high - I drive much less than than average.  

How about tax relief for businesses that provide resources and jobs to local communities?  Relief for companies that allow employees to telecommute or work from home where applicable?  Why not reinforce decisions and actions that are green, sustainable, and efficient?  

Just a thought ... =)

MT

I moved downtown in our small town - drive very little - it is a coastal tourist trap so is crowded - especially on weekends; but has become year-round over about 20 years.  With the economic problems everywhere I had a German-built City-El 3-wheeler electric vehicle; but could not afford another one now (sadly, never imported to the US since 1993 or 1994).  Oil seems to be more affordable when the stock market went wild.  We are in for an interesting ride.  High priced gas is showing up in store the most to me.  Scary!

True change only comes when the product is feasible for the masses.  Morality and ethical issues influence the minority, such as the people on this site, however only the majority can truly make a change, and that will only materialize when driving a gas burning vehicle is more expensive than an electric.  I believe that we still have a while to go, but it is getting closer with the introduction of cars like the Leaf and Volt.

Pete..