Top 3 lighting manufacturers to offer LEDs this year

Good reading, thanks

Unfortunately, their LED technology was behind and had to either buy out or work with LED companies who are more ahead.  If only they did it sooner, we would have more cheapers LED lights today!  I guess it's better late than never.

I am in full disagreement of the opinion from the original poster. A 60 W bulb cost (the consumer) 60 cents.  An LED equivalent is going to cost $60?  That allows them to claim 'green' while raping the public for 1,000% profit. 

There's nothing good about that news. 

I also think this is a good news,the price is much higher than we think.

It is true that now is very expensive, but will eventually become cheaper and are the future.

Indeed, many smaller manufacturers of LED lights produce much better performing LEDs. Philips however is coming ahead with its introduction of the funny looking A19 bulb.  Price is still high. In the candelabra category, I found Tuwago's LED candelabra among the best performers, if not the best, at 3.8W and 230 lumens. 

Have the LED bulbs got to the point yet where they save you more on electricity to cover the extra cost of the LED bulb?

I would love to switch to LED, but, it´s still so expensive. I would have to spend over 800$ to replace all, how much money can i save per month?...

Hi, 

Here is the rule of thumb for calculating the cost recovery. If you have lights at home that are lit 8+ hours per day, they will be good candidates for replacement with LED bulbs. Why? The longer you have the light on per day, the sooner you can recoup the initial cost.  With  8 hours on per day, you can usually recoup your initial investment in about 15-18 months, depending on which brand of LED you buy. Big company like Philips (www.philips.com) and small company like Tuwago (www.tuwago.com) are putting out LEDs that are good performers and more affordable on prices.   

ralfnalepa 

I hope earlier reply answers some of your questions. Another quick calculation on cost saving is this: If you replace an incandescent or halogen light with comparable LED (at times you  may sacrifice slightly on the lumens) , you can save about 75% - 90% of electricity cost, plus the replacement cost for the conventional lights.    If you replace a CFL with an LED, you can   generally save 45% to 55% of energy cost.  And don't forget that you have to add the replacement cost of the conventional bulbs that go out so often (usually rated 1000 hours). Again, big company like Philips (www.philips.com) and small company like Tuwago (www.tuwago.com) put out beautiful and affordable LED lights that are worth looking into. 

Clearly, Philips is staking out shelf space as the first-to-market. But are the products ready for prime time? Will this pioneer strategy give them first mover advantage or backfire if the products don’t meet consumer expectations? I have some doubts and have now bought a couple of the bulbs to try out. Swiss Replica Watches Replica Watches Replica Watch Rolex Replica Watches

Hope they are satisfactory.

My husband bought a pack of 3 LEDs at Costco for $17, I don't remember the brand. Nice, but not as bright as the CFLs we were using prior.

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Originally Posted by joewatts 

Have the LED bulbs got to the point yet where they save you more on electricity to cover the extra cost of the LED bulb?

A couple years back I worked out a formula that answers that exact question.  It's described here:

http://www.greenoptions.com/wiki/lifetime-costs-of-light-bulbs

It allows you determine the bulb's cost per unit of light emitted, given that you know a few things about the bulb, like its initial cost, power consumption, how long it lasts, etc.  Of course you also have to factor in the cost of electricity.

I've been watching the numbers closely over the years, we're still not quite there, but very close, close enough that some of the less tangible advantages LEDs have over CFLs may be enough to push someone over to the LED side (like less frequent bulb changing, less heat generated, no mercury, etc.)

Here are a couple of recent "typical" sets of numbers I've encountered:

Initial Cost: $5.00

Watts Consumed: 9

Cost per KWh: $0.10

Lifetime Hours: 12000

Initial Lumens: 600

Depreciation: 0.7

Cost per MLh: $2.58

Initial Cost: $20.00

Watts Consumed: 6

Cost per KWh: $0.10

Lifetime Hours: 50000

Initial Lumens: 400

Depreciation: 0.7

Cost per MLh: $2.94

So the CFL costs $2.58 for every million lumen-hours of light (MLh) it generates, whereas the LED costs $2.94 to generate that same amount of light.  This includes the initial cost of the bulb and the cost of electricity.

I built a little 'app' that allows me to put in numbers for any of those parameters, and it updates the other numbers based on the new entry.  So, for example, if I want to know what price the LED would have to sell for to be even with the CFL on the bottom line, I put $2.58 in the "Cost per MLh" space and click on the "Initial Cost" space, and get (in this case): $13.89.

Note that raising the cost of electricity changes the picture considerably, for example, in Hawaii, electricity is significantly more expensive than in most other states, no doubt they are well past the crossover point for LEDs being more cost-effective than CFLs.

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Originally Posted by MichelleGreen 

My husband bought a pack of 3 LEDs at Costco for $17, I don't remember the brand. Nice, but not as bright as the CFLs we were using prior.

Now that is getting more into an affordable price range.  I never bought bulbs when I go to Costco, but I will definitely check these out...  Thanks
 

sounds a bit too good to be true. very likely it uses cheap 5mm LEDs..."showerhead" type 

we dont have those at our costco. one around here carries Feit Par LEDs. about $40 for dimmable Par38

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Originally Posted by Habbakuk 

Clearly, Philips is staking out shelf space as the first-to-market. But are the products ready for prime time? Will this pioneer strategy give them first mover advantage or backfire if the products don’t meet consumer expectations? I have some doubts and have now bought a couple of the bulbs to try out. jak schudnac odchudzanie zdrowie dieta

 

Hope they are satisfactory.

Philips always meed customer expectations, I have never been disappointed with them. I have tried all most of the major brands and my opinion Philips is the absolute best. 

I agree.

Going green is a MARKETING SCHEME for many companies! They claim to go green by providing green products at a premium. Yes it is sad, but the result is benificial (just not for your wallet).

We import from the manufacturer directly and can tell you that these other companies take a 400%-900% profit on some products. A 9W 800 lumen bulb costs us $12. No way does a $90 price range make sense.

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Originally Posted by joewatts 

Have the LED bulbs got to the point yet where they save you more on electricity to cover the extra cost of the LED bulb?

Yes I believe that point is here. A 100W LED flood light (replacing a 400W hps at $.20 Kwh here in California) that a business may use may set you back $400, but in the first year you would save $270 in electricity. During the lifespan of the 50,000 hours, this one unit would save you $2185 in electricity, plus maintenance costs and replacement costs. Not to mention a lot of Co2 saved.

They are a day late and a dollar short. other countries have long past that and they are still suing led and not the new brighter smd. Seams like we in the us are not the leader in tech now we are the last on the block to get indoor plumbing. From cars to high tech we are falling short. We tout up are 40 mpg cars when other makers are already passing the 50 - 60 mpg .  And they tout battery cars where the batteries are made in china because American battery makers  are so fare behind. And they do not tell you the for fast charging of there autos you need a special socket wired in to your home that cost a lot to install.  Wake up America and united we can catch up and pass them. Greed and not pride has made us fall asleep wake up America. 

They are a day late and a dollar short. 

and china makes a 27 7 w at 550 lums 

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Originally Posted by bobkart 

 

A couple years back I worked out a formula that answers that exact question.  It's described here:

 

http://www.greenoptions.com/wiki/lifetime-costs-of-light-bulbs /tim viec

 

It allows you determine the bulb's cost per unit of light emitted, given that you know a few things about the bulb, like its initial cost, power consumption, how long it lasts, etc.  Of course you also have to factor in the cost of electricity.

 

I've been watching the numbers closely over the years, we're still not quite there, but very close, close enough that some of the less tangible advantages LEDs have over CFLs may be enough to push someone over to the LED side (like less frequent bulb changing, less heat generated, no mercury, etc.)

 

Here are a couple of recent "typical" sets of numbers I've encountered:

 

Initial Cost: $5.00

Watts Consumed: 9

Cost per KWh: $0.10

Lifetime Hours: 12000

Initial Lumens: 600

Depreciation: 0.7

Cost per MLh: $2.58

 

Initial Cost: $20.00

Watts Consumed: 6

Cost per KWh: $0.10

Lifetime Hours: 50000

Initial Lumens: 400

Depreciation: 0.7

Cost per MLh: $2.94

 

So the CFL costs $2.58 for every million lumen-hours of light (MLh) it generates, whereas the LED costs $2.94 to generate that same amount of light.  This includes the initial cost of the bulb and the cost of electricity.

 

I built a little 'app' that allows me to put in numbers for any of those parameters, and it updates the other numbers based on the new entry.  So, for example, if I want to know what price the LED would have to sell for to be even with the CFL on the bottom line, I put $2.58 in the "Cost per MLh" space and click on the "Initial Cost" space, and get (in this case): $13.89.

 

Note that raising the cost of electricity changes the picture considerably, for example, in Hawaii, electricity is significantly more expensive than in most other states, no doubt they are well past the crossover point for LEDs being more cost-effective than CFLs.

Oh well! actually, this is a good news. However, check out the price is still not be suitable at all.

Nowadays, the cost of LED lights are becoming more and more reasonable and acceptable. As LED industry grows very fast in passed 2 years

the price of led light is becoming more affordable and. taken its energy-saving into consideration, it's a new star in the field of lighting.

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