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post #1 of 13
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I don't have cable, but I'm going to try and catch this show online - although the trailer is mighty depressing...



Other people, who can't see YouTube may be able to see this video at this link. Seriously, how sad is this? I can't believe kids couldn't even get the simplest of veggies. We don't buy beets often, but other than that, my son knew these veggies.

Do you think your kids could name the vegetables in this video? AND will you be watching this show
post #2 of 13
Having grown up on a farm, vegetables were quite easily identified - it was always fun to help with the garden. At least it was fun at the first grade age - later it just became work!

My kids grew up different - they had lived in several countries by the first grade and visited many more. İ expect they may have had more difficulty.  
post #3 of 13
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Well, to be fair my son was raised vegetarian for the first 6-7 years or so of his life, but still... I don't think that has much to do with kids knowing or not knowing that vegetables exist. Kids should be offered vegetables by their parents even if they do eat meat obviously. 

What I honestly think the problem is in this country is that parents treat kids different from how they treat themselves or they're just making bad purchasing decisions. I can't tell you how many times I've been at someone's house and their kid has to eat veggies (i.e. you see them on the kid's plate) while the parents have none on their own plate. OR worse, you hear adults say, "I can't afford veggies" but they do have chips in the pantry and three TVs.

I do think it's lame that produce costs more than chips and soda but I really don't think cost is a good excuse in the long run. If you don't buy a bunch of stuff you don't need and don't buy junk food you can afford vegetables and fruits, EVEN over-priced organics. Vegetables just aren't marketed as well as other foods, and people seemingly can't budget correctly.

Stuff like this frustrates me to no end. Half of my son's friends are overweight and it's so so so frustrating and upsetting! We're not building a healthy community or planet. Ok, stopping before I rant for an hour.
post #4 of 13
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PS - Russ, for some reason I had no idea you had kids! How many? 
post #5 of 13
Somehow I'm not surprised. It is really sad. I think another problem is one of connection. I didn't know that chicken fingers were made of chickens until I was about 8 years old. I honestly thought it was another one of those funny word issues in English where one word sounds like another, and I knew that chickens didn't really have fingers, so I never made that connection. I was pretty shocked the first time I had chicken with bones in it. I had no idea that meat was animals (except deer meat, but that you didn't buy at the grocery store, so knowing that didn't help).

Children don't make connections and adults these days aren't helping. When I grew up, I was in the kitchen helping my mom. She asked us what we wanted to eat, she took us grocery shopping. We made choices and we helped. But I have to admit, most of my excitement over vegetables as a kid was getting to use the can opener. However, I grew up with a babysitter that took care of several children from a few families and we went to her house everyday where she had a garden and we helped her shell peas and pick corn. So it is all about education. Kids will never learn these things if they aren't exposed to it.

On the plus side, I do have a positive note, I started tutoring a couple of weeks ago. It is a contracting group that works under NCLB act, and as an ice breaker I asked the kids questions. One was, what is your favorite candy. They both looked at me puzzled and said they couldn't think of one. So I said, or fruit. They immediately had a favorite fruit choice. This made me so happy inside knowing that these "at risk" kids were more enthusiastic over fruit than candy!

If it comes out on Hulu, I'll definitely watch it!!!
post #6 of 13
 I agree with everything you said here, Jennifer. I hate to see a child at the table with nothing but baloney slices and cheese because "that's what he likes." Meat and dairy are the hardest things to digest, and have the greatest concentration of pollutants / carcinogens. Children deserve way better, and it has to come from the parents. I don't have any children yet but when I do they'll get lots of variety in their diet (including meat, but in moderation).
post #7 of 13
Young kids and eating properly can certainly be challenging!  I *try* to eat local and seasonal, but that leaves few options right now.  My daughter (22 months) isn't big on eating root vegetables.  She doesn't care a whole lot for meat, either (which I'm fine with).  Options are pretty limited!  Variety is good, for sure, and she has tried a wide assortment of foods, but balancing variety with being environmentally conscious and the ever-changing tastes of a small child is a huge challenge.
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Young kids and eating properly can certainly be challenging!  I *try* to eat local and seasonal, but that leaves few options right now.  My daughter (22 months) isn't big on eating root vegetables. 

I know, if you really try to eat in season it can be hard. When Cedar was a baby I did not only buy in season produce because I wanted him to have a larger selection. I did always buy organic through when I couldn't get local, or I'd buy frozen organic veggies.

As for root veggies have you tried roasting some, them cutting them small or mashing them? Cedar loved mashed yams and sweet potatoes as a baby, and later he just liked root veggies steamed or roasted and cut. You can also mix them up.

If anyone is looking for baby-toddler recipes, here are some of Cedar's fave recipes when he was little. If you've got a child who is old enough to chew properly you don't have to mash the food so much... Just adjust the texture with or without liquid.

Organic broccoli and tofu with peanut sauce

Steam broccoli until very soft. Cut firm organic tofu into tiny baby bite size pieces and heat it a little to warm (like 15 seconds in the microwave). Mix a tablespoon or two of organic peanut butter in a small sauce pan with some liquid - apple juice or milk – until sauce-like. Toss the broccoli into a bowl the tofu squares. Then drizzle the sauce over it.

Soybean & pineapple crush:

Boil one cup of frozen shelled organic soybeans for about 5 minutes. Puree or mash soybeans with 1/2 cup crushed pineapple. You can use canned or fresh pineapple. Add 1/2 cup of pineapple juice until the mash or puree is at the desired consistency.You can add a little pinch of ginger for flavor.

Lentils or brown rice & carrots
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Mince 1/2 of a red pepper, and saute in a wee bit of olive oil until soft. Mix in 1/2 pound of dry lentils, 4 cups water, and 1/2 pound organic carrots. Bring to a boil, then turn down the heat and simmer for about an hour; until everything is very soft. Cool, then mash or puree, depending on the texture your little one can handle. If you’re using brown rice: saute the pepper, then add carrots and 2 cups of water. Bring to a boil and then turn down to simmer - cook for 1/2 hour or until carrots are very soft. Make four cups of brown rice according to the package directions in another pot. Once both the rice and veggies are done; cool, then puree or mash everything together.

Sweet carrots:

Steam one organic carrot and about half an organic red apple until very soft (until easy to mash). The apple will be done sooner so take it out as the carrot finishes steaming. Add both to blender with a dash of cinnamon and nutmeg. Puree.

Also for kids who won't eat plain veggies you can add herbs and spices rather than butter. I've never added butter or salt to veggies, because I don't want Cedar to not know how things taste. Good herb and spice additions for babies:
  • Add cinnamon or nutmeg to pumpkin, apples, or pears.
  • Add mint to peas, potatoes, or berries.
  • Add lemongrass to broccoli and carrots.
  • Add cilantro to melon or avocado.
  • Add ginger to lentils, bananas, or apples.
post #9 of 13
Thanks for the suggestions, Jennifer.  Her tastes change every week, so it seems.  I keep trying things!  I have given her veggies cooked in a variety of ways (steamed, raw, mashed, mixed with other veggies).  It's all hit-or-miss, mostly misses.  She loves fruit, which is entirely out of season, but I buy it anyway.  She's gotta eat!  She does pretty well with pastas and tomato sauces, as well as a lot of baked goods.  I'll just keep trying :)
post #10 of 13
Well written Jennifer! Good suggestions - getting taste in is important to everyone - especially babies!

Congrats captaint - you have a very big job on your hands but seem to be enjoying it!

My oldest son was born in Trinidad (1980) and was 6 months old before we made it back to the states for 2 months. He hated the baby food in the states as by that time they had removed most of the salt and other taste good stuff from the prepared food - became similar to wall paper paste. Got to Germany and things were easier - they had yet to do the same.

@Jennifer - 3 kids in the US with the youngest still in the university - engineering student and 1 in Turkey who now works for her grandfathers publishing house.
post #11 of 13
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She does pretty well with pastas and tomato sauces, as well as a lot of baked goods.  I'll just keep trying :)

You're lucky she'll eat pasta and sauce! Cedar will eat noodles plain - but no butter, no sauce, no anything. He's super picky. It could be worse. Everyone thinks I cast some spell on him because he'll literally ask for "steamed broccoli, steamed carrots, and water" for dinner and "A whole red bell pepper and a lemon" for breakfast - but really, he's hard to feed. He won't, for example, eat typical kid fare - NO PB&J, no mac N cheese, no cold cereal with milk, etc. He just barely started eating pizza and granola last year. Luckily he does like grain stuff so long as it's wheat - wheat bagels, bread, and so on. But his meals are super boring for the most part.

So long as we're offering healthy stuff most of the time I suppose we're doing ok. Kids are picky!
post #12 of 13
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@Jennifer - 3 kids in the US with the youngest still in the university - engineering student and 1 in Turkey who now works for her grandfathers publishing house.

That's awesome. I have no clue how I missed you having kids. Three is a great number! 
post #13 of 13
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Congrats captaint - you have a very big job on your hands but seem to be enjoying it!
 

Thanks, Russ.  It is fun most of the time :)

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So long as we're offering healthy stuff most of the time I suppose we're doing ok. Kids are picky!
 
Exactly right, Jennifer.  Dinner can be pretty strange sometimes.  I always offer her what I'm eating, but sometimes she will just end up eating whatever eclectic mix she happens to want that day!  Not sure if she'll ever have a lemon and bell pepper for breakfast, but who knows ;)
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