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From the New York Times today.  A good, balanced article.
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The difficulty is that a proper testing program will take many years to go through the thousands of chemicals, both natural and man made, that affect everyday life.

İ would expect that there would be big surprises where no one even expects while other chemicals that are considered bad by some today would be proven to be safe.

A testing program should be started immediately with no question. People shouldn't panic and jump off buildings either.

A good green jobs program! 
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This is a great article! Thanks for posting Captaint. I thought everything but the "granola munching crank" comment was good. I do agree that we should be careful with what we expose kids to especially when you don't have to choose the most toxic options. I.e. natural cleaners will do the same job as many harsh cleaners.

I agree we should have MUCH better testing, but that it'll probably take time and resources people won't want to give. Plus who is going to let their kids participate in an exposure study? So results will not likely ever be fully correct.

I like Russ' idea about this being a good job opp.
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I agree it won't be easy and it is absolutely necessary.  Working in the "food" (chemical) industry I have seen our standards change in the few years I have been here.  I often wonder if my older coworkers, who have been with the company for decades, will make it to or be able to enjoy their retirement.  They speak often of the way they used to "test" some chemicals for their quality-by sniffing them.  Some of those chemicals are now known carcinogens with long-term accumulating affects akin to asbestos exposure.
More intensive study is being done in the prenatal environment.  I enjoy the works of Dan Agin, who is a good authority on this topic.  He's not jumping off any buildings, but much caution is warranted.  The precautionary principle would be good advice.  I see a big fight coming in this arena from chemical industries akin to what we've seen from tobacco and oil when science lined up firmly against them.  Disinformation is a business at this point.
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This is similar to the problem with better disposal for excess or old drugs in that companies are probably worried about the unknowns involved. İf materials they commonly use get tagged with a higher level of hazard they would then be more costly to get rid of. Better for them to stick their head in the sand and play dumb from their point of view. 

A friend from Madras, OR who still farms complains he spends all winter filling out government paper work on farm chemicals. Necessary yes but not fun for sure. The government has always been great at complicating things more than needed.

Any program will take many years to really become effective considering the length of testing programs and the vast number of materials involved. That means action is needed now.

Congress usually manages to mess things up as well. Take the illegal immigrant situation for example - the easiest way would be to throw the burden and penalties on the employer as well. That people don't like because someone (or many) from the country club would get free government sponsored vacations no doubt. 

So what did congress do - introduce a system which an illegal can easily game and then pat themselves on the back.

İ have worked in many countries around the world and at each project İ had to have a work permit. İf you didn't you were thrown out of the country. İ never saw a country where İ had access to free government services of any kind either.

 
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