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Organic not everything when it comes to food safety

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Russ sent me an interesting link to a post about organics and pesticides - or rather a piece that debates the benefits of organics when compared to all the toxic chemicals found in nature. Basically the piece notes that if you eat food, even only organics you're still eating toxins on a daily basis and also of note the piece discusses why pesticides may not be as bad as you think. Overall, I thought it was an eye opening piece. Although I don't agree with the authors take that the, "EPA does a very good job of regulating toxic materials" - I think "very" good might be pushing it; but then I don't trust many large organizations. Still, overall this article really made me think and it's worth a read.

You can read the piece at the following link - World’s Largest Producer of Toxic Chemicals, MNI, Continues to Contaminate the Entire Food Supply.

In related news I also just saw a report about bacteria found in bagged greens in Oregon. According to the report, "lab tests on major brands selling both organic and nonorganic greens in Oregon and across the country showed high levels of bacteria that point to unsanitary conditions." The company tested 208 bags of greens including greens from brands such Dole, Earthbound Farm Organic and Fresh Express. Nearly 40% of the bagged greens showed high levels of coliform and more than 20 percent had a high concentration of enterococus  -- both "indicator" bacteria.

Supposedly, the bacteria found in the greens is used by public health experts to gauge if there is fecal contamination in the product. While the bacteria is not considered really harmful to humans, it can indicate that there's fecal contamination from humans or animals which may in turn mean that there could be something more dangerous in the product.

Basically both these pieces are a good reasons to consider all food issues, not simply organics. I still think organic foods have benefits but it's also important to pay attention to other issues like proper food handling. I think a lot of us interested in green eating (self included) get easily caught up in one issue over others, like for example, "organics are best" or "GMOs suck" vs thinking about the overall food picture related to food safety and health.

What do you think? Are we too focused on narrow food issues and not the big picture? 
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I do think we get caught up in a narrow focus. 10 years ago that narrow focus on bacteria led to the need to use anti-bacterial soap constantly to wash everything and everyone. Not such a great idea... Too many people follow the trends and the one sided media stories and not enough is being done to make sure the public gets to see both sides!
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By the way, interesting article...I like the part where the author states that people aren't educated enough to understand risk, and then by the end of the article it pretty much says, you are going to eat toxins, trust the EPA, that's all you need to know. So people aren't educated enough, and we're not going to bother trying to educate you...just interesting...(I'm not being a total pessimist, just playing a little devil's advocate)

There are some valid points, and we should probably not worry too much, but I think we still have a right to know about what's on our food. For those few people out there who can intelligently use that information :) ...I love to learn, and I'm willing to!!!
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I like the part where the author states that people aren't educated enough to understand risk, and then by the end of the article it pretty much says, you are going to eat toxins, trust the EPA, that's all you need to know. So people aren't educated enough, and we're not going to bother trying to educate you...just interesting...(I'm not being a total pessimist, just playing a little devil's advocate)

I agree. I think the casual approach doesn't work for all people when it comes to food, pesticides, toxins, and all that. Some people want more than "Don't worry - it's all mostly ok." That said, his approach is almost exactly how I deal with germ issues - i.e. "I'm aware but what's the point of getting over hyper - chill about germs already." So, I guess I'm one to talk :) 

The problem is that people place very different weight on different issues. Like for me germs are a moot point (as noted in that recent germ thread) and I'm an organic food advocate but not overly crazed about it. I feel like some conventional foods won't kill you. But I am really big on less toxic cleaners and I place more value on not overly using paper + plastic products than I do on some other green issues. I'm a huge advocate of having less stuff for example, but I don't go around preaching as much about sustainable transportation, even though that's also a big deal.

I guess it boils down to where your personal values.
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