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Would you use cloth hand towels in a public restroom or no (because of germs)

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I recently posted here about a new product PeopleTowels. I haven't reviewed them yet because the company literally just sent me some to sample. However, once I got them I asked my boyfriend if he'd review them too - I always try to get more than one opinion on gear I test. And he said, "Why would I use a personal hand towel out and about?" he went on to say that he thinks that paper towels serve more than one purpose – they dry your hands and also protect you from germs. For example, he said he washes, then uses that same paper towel to open the bathroom door on the way out.

He basically said that unless PeopleTowels stop germs he wouldn't give them a good review. My issue with this in short is that germs are everywhere. You can't avoid them. I wrote an example at my personal blog...


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You use the paper towel like my boyfriend to dry your hands in a public restroom at a store. Assuming you did a good job washing your hands you should now be germ free. Then you take that paper towel and use it to open the bathroom door. Germ free check!


What about however, when you venture further into the store?
 

In the store you come into contact with carts, produce, boxes of cereal, money, the pen you use to write your check (or god forbid the ATM machine), plus a slew of other objects that thousands of folks before you have touched. Your point with using the paper towel to avoid germs has now been blown to heck and back because all those other objects you’ve now touched are covered with germs of people who also came out of that bathroom but didn’t wash their hands.


Am  I missing something here. I'm not sure germs alone justify using paper towels when there are germs everywhere anyhow. I'm fairly immune to germ worries because I spent too much time in college microbiology (everything we swabbed to test was germ ridden) so I sort of came to a "we can't win against germs" decision and besides the normal stuff, washing hands, washing food, etc. I mainly don't care.

All that said, I'm wondering if anyone else agrees with my boyfriend's theory about paper towels stopping germs. I'm wondering if a basic worry about said germs is why, even though it's toxic people still buy bleach and other harsh cleaners.

What do you think? - Oh and personally I'd use the towels, or at least I'll try them out. As noted I don't think it matters if you use the paper towel on the bathroom door or not.
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You know, Jennifer, I think you and your boyfriend agree, you just don't know it :)  I think it's just a matter of how far people want to go.  As you said, germs are everywhere and you can't avoid them.  Yet still you wash your hands (I assume!) and take some basic precautions to avoid excessive exposure.  Your boyfriend just takes it one step further with the bathroom door handle.  I'm not saying you or he is right or wrong (because you're both right), I'm just pointing out that you both have the same reasoning for doing slightly different actions.  Like I said, it's a matter of how far you want to go with it.  Your boyfriend might think it's crazy for people to wipe down carts, avoid shaking hands with others and rub sanitizer on their hands every 30 seconds.  If so, he can perfectly understand where you are right now :) 
As always, good luck to you!
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Your boyfriend's logic doesn't make any sense to me.  As you say, germs are everywhere.  I suppose his thought process is that some people don't wash their hands after using the restroom, and so the door handle is the most likely place to encounter bacteria after having washed his hands.

 

But even if you accepted that premise, why couldn't you just use the people towel on the door handle?

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İ feel that many people go too far in avoiding dirt & germs. You need to be exposed constantly to whatever is new in  order to build up immunity. The 'bugs' are there and you will be exposed to them sooner or later. Little kids are germ magnets and share everything equally with other kids and then the parents get the benefit as well!

Having said that, İ do avoid handrails and such in public. İ wash my hands regularly when in public. İ don't ever carry any sanitizer or use anything extra like that. 

Here the kiss on the cheek or touching of cheeks between men is the norm. This winter the government is advising that one should not really do that.
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Originally Posted by dana1981 View Post

Your boyfriend's logic doesn't make any sense to me.  As you say, germs are everywhere.  I suppose his thought process is that some people don't wash their hands after using the restroom, and so the door handle is the most likely place to encounter bacteria after having washed his hands.

 

But even if you accepted that premise, why couldn't you just use the people towel on the door handle?


I guess people assume (or some people) that the bathroom door is the most germy thing but honestly I don't see how it's worse than anything else a million people touch, which is why I have trouble accepting my boyfriend's train of thought too. Germs can be just as bad on money or library books which we touch all the time. When I was in micro and had to grow bacteria from everyday objects the one that ended up being the most gross was actually a 'clean' cafeteria tray - that had been cleaned (in theory) by staff so... what are ya gonna do? Plus when I was in university RN clinicals we did a hand washing experiment using that germ gel (stuff that shows germs) and an ultraviolet light and no one passed. Even folks who had washed for three minutes; well over the recommended hand washing time.

He did bring up using the peopletowels on the door, but then said, well now the germs would be on the towel so that blows that idea out.
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İ feel that many people go too far in avoiding dirt & germs. You need to be exposed constantly to whatever is new in  order to build up immunity. The 'bugs' are there and you will be exposed to them sooner or later. Little kids are germ magnets and share everything equally with other kids and then the parents get the benefit as well!

Having said that, İ do avoid handrails and such in public. İ wash my hands regularly when in public. İ don't ever carry any sanitizer or use anything extra like that. 

Here the kiss on the cheek or touching of cheeks between men is the norm. This winter the government is advising that one should not really do that.

I agree. I never wanted my son totally sheltered from germs because I do think people should build up some natural resistance. Most people I know are way over zealous about trying to kill germs, which I think is mainly a good way to grow nice big overly resistant germs. I take basic precautions but I'm not up for germs ruling my life.
post #7 of 11
What about the harmful chemicals used and the trees they cut  to make the paper towels? I don't mind using cloth napkins. I use them at home....but I can understand your boyfriends point of view for using public towels....I really can't decide on this one. I mean I've been to public places that look that they haven't cleaned in years....should I trust the towels. 
Edited by greenme - 1/29/10 at 12:06pm
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What about the harmful chemicals used and the trees they cut  to make the paper towels? I don't mind using cloth napkins. I use them at home....but I can understand your boyfriends point of view for using public towels....I really can't decide on this one. I mean I've been to public places that look that they haven't cleaned in years....should I trust the towels. 

If you carried a PeopleTowel it's a personal use towel. I don't think I'd use public cloth hand towels; even for me that's a little more germy than I'd like. We only use cloth napkins too and sometimes more than once.
post #9 of 11
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UPDATE: I told my boyfriend my germ theory - that germs are everywhere so just skipping them on the bathroom door is less helpful than it seems. He said, and excuse me for the grossness here, that "Fresh poo and pee" are his main concern not old dried up germs such as you might find on an ATM machine.

The bathrooms he visits must be super bad, that's all I know.
post #10 of 11
Sadly I'd say the bathrooms he encounters are more normal than you'd be comfortable knowing.
Does your boyfriend use a paper towel to turn off the faucet, too?  I know that may sound strange since you would assume anyone using the faucet would be washing their hands.  That'd be a bad assumption, though.  Apparently many people think a three second swipe under cold water will get rid of germs!
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Sadly I'd say the bathrooms he encounters are more normal than you'd be comfortable knowing.
Does your boyfriend use a paper towel to turn off the faucet, too?  I know that may sound strange since you would assume anyone using the faucet would be washing their hands.  That'd be a bad assumption, though.  Apparently many people think a three second swipe under cold water will get rid of germs!

Trust me, after micro and nursing school I do know how bad the bathroom doors are, but I also know that plenty of other things we touch are just as bad, which is why I don't get the extra carefulness in the bathroom but not wearing gloves to handle money, pens, the ATM, food, etc.

My boyfriend talks as if the bathroom doors he encounters are literally dripping with pee. Wow that was a gross statement. Knowing him I bet he does use the paper towel for the faucet too - but I'll ask anyhow.
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