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post #1 of 35
Thread Starter 
For you Shaklee vendors out there - where can İ find product information on the Shaklee website? Contents, ingredients, filter capability for the water filter etc.

All İ saw were blurbs saying not to worry, that the product is wonderful. I would decide for myself how wonderful İ think it is and am certainly not interested in what the company thinks.
post #2 of 35
It's super frustrating that they don't disclose any sort of ingredient list at the website. I've looked and looked for info about them before too AND even well known green sites who discuss the cleaners say nothing about what's in them - just offer the same old "It's safe" blurb.

My take on cleaning products that don't disclose fully is that they're usually hiding something. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but plenty of products do disclose, so why not if you've got nothing to hide.
post #3 of 35
Thread Starter 
İ am even more concerned when one of the Amway/Shaklee bunch start claiming how wonderful they are. This type of company, direct or in home sales, often relies on the sales persons and customers feelings and excitement more than anything else like facts.

The big everyday brands have different concerns and have to watch themselves more - it would seem they are more susceptible to pressure from the public - İ might be wrong there? ( İ realize it is unlikely İ am wrong as İ normally make one mistake per year and İ try to get that out of the way on January 1 - then free sailing for a whole year!)
post #4 of 35
Hahaha. So are you saying your 2009 mistake was already made. I know that some smaller companies - earth friendly products for example, or biokleen, both not as popular as Clorox greenworks or 7th gen disclose, as do some other smaller companies. However, I've never seen any facts to back Shaklee products up as actually green.
post #5 of 35
Thread Starter 
İt makes sense to disclose the contents unless there is something to hide. For a small company it really seems like a good move.

Good PR if nothing else - of course the listed contents then must be honest or else it should cause a disaster if one is caught lying.

İ may procrastinate on some things but İ try to get through the mistake as early as possible! 
post #6 of 35
Hi Russ Did you receive the Shaklee ingredients info you were looking for?   I have pdf's that offer Shaklee product ingredients that I would be happy to e-mail you.  If you would like to receive them, simply e-mail me at gaskellwellness@comcast.net and I will be happy to reply with attachments.
post #7 of 35
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Originally Posted by gwellness View Post

Hi Russ Did you receive the Shaklee ingredients info you were looking for?   I have pdf's that offer Shaklee product ingredients that I would be happy to e-mail you.  If you would like to receive them, simply e-mail me at gaskellwellness@comcast.net and I will be happy to reply with attachments.

Where did you get the pdfs - is there somewhere online that the company offers them? 
post #8 of 35
Thread Starter 
 Hi Jennifer - just got them this morning and have yet to look at them. There are 2 PDF files which İ will email to you.

Best Regards,
Russ
post #9 of 35
I have been a Shaklee customer for years due to my son's allergies. I went online now just to check. I know there are lots of lists of things that are not in any products, but I noticed that next to most products when you pull it up there is a link that says read the label and then one that says product brief. Not sure if that helps.

I do know on the cleaning products because that's what I have used the most for years. Here is what the products do not contain.

  • No napthalene
  • No kerosene
  • No formaldehyde
  • No phenol
  • No cresol
  • No lye
  • No hydrochloric acid
  • No sulfuric acid
  • No petroleum distillates
  • No benzene
  • No ammonia
  • No paradichlorobenzene
  • No sodium hydroxide
  • No butyl cellosolve
  • No phosphoric acid
  • No chlorine
  • 0 ingredients that are hazardous to humans.

    0 chemicals like phosphates, chlorine, and nitrates that are harmful to the planet are in Get Clean.

    0 volatile organic compounds, chemicals that produce noxious toxins and air pollution, are in Get Clean.
    The last info that I know is about Basic H2 is made from corn and coconuts. Hope that helps some.... greenmommy613
post #10 of 35
Thread Starter 
The last point (0 ingredients that are hazardous to humans) is totally incorrect as they do not know - no one does

The rest of the list seems to be buzz words that people have been taught to fear - for reasons large & small, correct and incorrect.

A list of what products do contain would be of far more interest but Shaklee does not bother to say that - İ wonder why? 

1. İ do not care for multi level marketing schemes - they are just so the people high on the list can make very good money while others work.

2. Any time someone runs around telling how wonderful while releasing partial information İ tend to wonder what more there is to know.
post #11 of 35
Well, when gwellness sent Russ the ingredient list for Shaklee products he sent it to me, and honestly from their information these products seem mostly safe however, I'm still not totally on board with them because one, why not put the info at the website? Full disclosure is something you can on the packaging or find at many green company websites now, for example, look at this page from Seventh Generation for their dish soap. I don't think SG makes perfect products but their info pages are a good example of how a company should set stuff up.

Secondly there's still stuff missing from the ingredient list gwellness sent. For example, the fabric sheets say, "100% vegetable-derived fabric softeners on biodegradable sheets; preservative free, fragrance free." The dish soap says, "unique combination of naturally derived surfactants (corn and coconut-based ), mineral salts, surfactants, stabilizers, and water." Instead of simply listing ingredients they give a general overview of stuff that's in there. Also I can't find the MSDS sheets on their website for anything.

Thirdly, the website has multiple products that are not included on the ingredient list I was sent.

Basically if a company can't be 100% forthcoming it makes me curious about why. I don't trust partial information and I hate when companies make it impossible for consumers to educate themselves - that to me is worse than a company that makes bleach and other icky stuff. Even a bottle of gross old Clorox made cleaner will list ingredients. That's great, I know not to use it. Shaklee doesn't offer the same option.
post #12 of 35
My son was diagnosed with Infantile Spasms at the age of three and a half months old. He went onto a Ketogenic Diet. For those who don't know about this type of diet, dyes, perfumes, and unnatural ingredients found in most products such as soaps, baby wipes, etc. cause siezures to increase. These types of products MUST be avoided. Every product that is used for that child must be checked by his/her doctor and dietition. Due to the limited amount of products that are available out there for such cases, we turned to the green companies. We evaluated both companies listed above and more. The products offered by Shaklee were accepted while most others were rejected because of the lack of information about the products or contents. The problem I see with the above statements is that Shaklee unlike the others is not an online company, for the most part. They use their website mainly for existing customers to order. We had to go talk and call to get the information. 

Some other things that seperate Shaklee from other companies is that it has the backing of some of the biggest names in the business in every field, the longest running company, and their studies/research are more extensive.

So the basic jist of my writing this post is simple. Find the facts. If they are not available, ask questions directly from the companies themselves.

P.S. - I love the "MSDS" for Seventh Generation.

Steven From NJ - Concerned Parent Who Had To Gets The Facts Strait - (Not Associated With Shaklee, Seventh Generation, or other Green Companies)
post #13 of 35
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Originally Posted by Steven2million View Post

The products offered by Shaklee were accepted while most others were rejected because of the lack of information about the products or contents. The problem I see with the above statements is that Shaklee unlike the others is not an online company, for the most part. They use their website mainly for existing customers to order. We had to go talk and call to get the information. 

Some other things that seperate Shaklee from other companies is that it has the backing of some of the biggest names in the business in every field, the longest running company, and their studies/research are more extensive.

P.S. - I love the "MSDS" for Seventh Generation.
 

I'm glad you found products for your son that work but to say that you accepted Shaklee because other companies lack info is odd considering you can't get any info from Shaklee without having to go through a mess of trouble. It's as if they don't care enough about consumers to allow them easy access to this info online. Online or offline, if you're a company claiming green, and you have a website, you should make product info easy to access at the site - period.

Not all families have the time to call up a company and chat, plus with that in mind, the info Russ was sent was incomplete in my opinion and those were official company pdfs. Also, I've pulled the whole deal where I call a company for information. I've been ignored by more companies and organizations, including the USDA, then I care to admit. Many companies just don't care about speaking with consumers so long as they can continue to meet their bottom line. Once you have that experience so many times you just start wishing all companies had full disclosure at their site.

Additionally it doesn't matter a bit to me if a company is backed by "some of the biggest names in the business in every field" Clorox is a HUGE business name - should I trust them to look out for my family's health? How about Kimberly Clark - also huge and cutting down trees every day? Names mean nothing in terms of health or consumer or planet welfare - only what a company does matters.

I agree that many of Seventh Generations products could be better but I do like that they treat consumers with enough respect to place their full disclosure online.
post #14 of 35
Sorry to jump in on this thread so late, but I just encountered it.

I'm surprised you're having difficulty finding the basic ingredient lists for the nutritional products. When you select a specific product at Shaklee.com under "Shop" you can look at: "Features," "Directions," "Science," "Labels and "More Info." The labels contain .pdf files of the actual labels, which include usage suggestions, Daily Values and other ingredients.

I didn't happen to see an easy link to a downloadable version of the whole catalog at Shaklee.com, but it includes almost all the produts and the list of over 50 Published Manuscripts and highlights of some of the research in the back. I agree that the open Shaklee.com website could be a little easier to navigate and include more information. I use the Shaklee.net/members website, which has a more complete library and better support materials.

I'm not trying to promote my business here, but I wanted to offer this information, in case it might help the group be better informed.

Brooke Nelson
Shaklee Independent Distributor

post #15 of 35
Brook, when I do what you say not all products work. For example, I went to Fresh Laundry Fragrance Free Concentrate and clicked on the label and it took me to a Qwest fail page. Then I went to Dish Wash Concentrate - no label tab. Then I went to Germ Off Disinfecting Wipes - no label tab. Then I went to Hand Wash Concentrate - no tabs at all. Then I went to Soft Fabric Concentrate - no label tab.

You see the problem. I could stay there all day looking, but I don't have the time. I do appreciate you leaving some info though.
post #16 of 35
I believe the food supplement and personal care products have fairly complete listings, but the household cleaners don't have their ingredients listed on the website. I believe the times I've seen the Qwest fail page has been during updates of the website, although they should have a better way of handling that.
post #17 of 35
Hi, I agree with all of you and I too am a Shaklee distributor - my customers ask me about this a lot. While it's very easy to find the ingredients in all the other Shaklee products, they're very protective of the Basic H. What I end up doing is going into my little personal library and copying the information from there:

What are the ingredients in Basic H2TM Organic Super Cleaning Concentrate?
Basic H2 is 99.95% all natural and made from water, Alkyl Polyglucoside (from corn & coconut), Ethyoxylated Fatty Alcohol (from coconut), Xanthan Gum (from vegetables) and Methyl Chloro Isothiazolinone (biodegradable preservative).

I hope this helps!

Laura
www.BuyGreenCleaningProducts.com
 
 
 
post #18 of 35

Laura,

This ingredient list is very disappointing to me. Ethoxylated surfactants produce a very potent carcinogen, 1,4 dioxane, through the manufacturing process. The EPA has known for over 20 years that this has been linked to systemic cancer. And since it is made through the manufacturing process, not an intentional ingredient, it does not have to be listed on ingredient lists.

Suzanne

post #19 of 35

I am new to all this green cleaning and this is all so confusing to me!

post #20 of 35
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Originally Posted by KylieM View Post

I am new to all this green cleaning and this is all so confusing to me!


Not nearly as confused as I am about those ever-breeding cell phone pushers.  I would have thought that after 3 + years people should have found out about those toxic things and avoided them like the plague.  But; I guess not.  Just 'grin and bear' it.  Helps to read between the posts and not between the lines.  Welcome and enjoy the green scene!

post #21 of 35

At the risk of tooting our own horn, our product - NatureMagiX - is not made with any carcinogens, preservatives, fragrances, etc., nor does it contain any ammonia, bleach or petroleum products.  It's made from the yucca plant, and it contains living enzymes that clean and degrease in an extremely powerful way and continue to clean 24/7, removing dirt, grease & odors down to the bare surface. It's ideal for people with allergic reactions to common household cleaners.


Our MSDS is posted on our website.

 

We will send a free 1 quart sample to anyone who requests it, with no shipping or handling fee whatsoever.  Hope this helps.


Randall

 

post #22 of 35

to those who have questions here is the ingredient glossary for shaklee - please contact me if you want more informaiton on other prodducts.

 

I will send you what you need

 

Ellen

 

Get Clean - Ingredients Glossary (08-533-7-31.08).pdf 101k .pdf file

 

 

 

 

WalkerBC-NewURL.pdf 200k .pdf file

 

 

post #23 of 35

Does anyone know why Shaklee is not in the UK

I need some of there Sports Drink for may 20 at the lacrosse games

and I don't want to take it in the County if it is not allowed

I might get cought and go to Jail

Anyone know

 

Frank David

 

fjdavid44@gmail.com

 

post #24 of 35

I am a Shaklee Distributor as well-I also wish it was more readily available.  The label links should definitely work though.  They work for me.  Go to shaklee.com and go to each product.  Labels are right there.  There is a great website for medical professionals as well.  www.physicians.shaklee.com  Shaklee is one of the few companies published in Medical journals... They do extensive product testing and quality control.  Over 80,000 year.  There is additional info once you become a member.  Everything is also guaranteed/money back.  Contact me if you have any questions or if you want me to send the link.  I love all of the products and found they worked so well for me/family--I became a Distributor.  Tracie@SharingVitality.com

 

post #25 of 35

Please call me if you have the link for the actual ingredient names.  I do have the Ingredients Glossary and others.  Thank you! Tracie@SharingVitality.com

post #26 of 35

Got it, but thanks! 

 

Basic H2 is 99.95% all natural and made from water, Alkyl Polyglucoside (from corn & coconut), Ethyoxylated Fatty Alcohol (from coconut), Xanthan Gum (from vegetables) and Methyl Chloro Isothiazolinone (biodegradable preservative).

 

These are considered safe, non-toxic.

post #27 of 35

There are some things hard to understand, but i hope to be more green

post #28 of 35

Right on Shaklees website you can click on the PDF for the label of the bottle and it gives you all of the information that you might need.

post #29 of 35

Just to let you know that Shaklee was in the UK in 1983. I lived in london at the time.

Took the challenge of the diet with the vitamin drinks etc and exercise programme, which came with the Shaklee slim plan, "Lets Slimmercise"" casette tape which i still have.

Starting to do the exercise programme again at 59, after a long illness with the same casette tape"VALUE FOR MONEY EH"".thoroughly enjoyed the programme, yes its a pity they left UK.

 

Also thought it would be a distraction from the green issues.

post #30 of 35
HI just came across this post..I do have a pdf file of the "Get Clean" product ingredients. If you want the list send me an email @ tishalynne@live.com subject "Get Clean" ingredients. by the say it is a one pager...not a huge file.
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