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post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

So I actually haven't mentioned this before...a few weeks ago, I became the green consumer products blogger for Cleantechblog.com.  I post once a week (either late Wednesday night or early Thursday morning) and thus far I've written about Freshaire Choice paint, Eco Touch waterless car wash, and today I wrote about Keetsa mattresses.

 

Here's a snippet in case anyone is looking for a green bed:


What is it?

Keetsa mattresses are made with 100% recycled steel coils, scrap memory foam bits, and a variety of sustainable materials like bamboo fabrics and unbleached natural cotton. Keetsa offers six different types of mattresses.

Why is it better?
Most people sleep on mattresses.
Most people spend one-third of their lives in bed. But most people don’t know that conventional mattresses are covered in flame-retardants, petroleum-based pesticides, and other harsh chemicals. Well, not Keetsa mattresses. Not to mention, all those recycled materials I listed before? A lot of them can be recycled if you jump up and down a few too many times and need a new one.

 

(and of course you can read the rest over on Cleantechblog.com)

post #2 of 9

I will add you to my list of blogs displayed on my blog http://green-mom.blogspot.com/ 

 

sounds awesome!

 

post #3 of 9

SUPERGREEN washed ---

if you want this product for 1/2 the cost - Walmart.com, also a few of the products can be found at HeartlandAmerica.com. (all of my price quotes are based on a queen size) also "whypaymoreshoppe" seller on eBay has excellent prices.

Keetsa's 10" Cloud = $1044.00
Walmart's 10"" Aerus Natural Memory Foam Mattress =$529.88
Heartland's Theratouch Memory Mattress =$424.94
"whypaymoreshoppe" Classic 10" = $459.99 (free shipping)

Keetsa's contour pillow $69.99
Walmart's Eco-Friendly Memory Foam Contour Pillow $27.88

Keetsa's metal bedframe: $229.99
Bedzine (same owner as Keetsa) metal bedframe $174.99
Heartland's Smartbase frame: $109.98 (incl. shipping)
Walmart's Smartbase frame: $99.99

Facts:

Keetsa's products are made a manufacture in China, Zinus (yes they have an office in Pleasanton). Zinus holds the patent on "Mattress-in-a-box".

Keetsa is not a mattress company - they are a marketing company.

Many vendors carry the 'non green tea' mattress-in-a-box if you don't want to pay $$$$ for literal green washing. (search "mattress-in-a-box)

If you use a mattress, pad and sheets --- and wash them, you don't need the green tea to 'freshen' your mattress.

If Keetsa were truly concerned about the environment and their customers health they would post the chemical material declaration sheet of the mattress, as well as the VOC testing results.

Keetsa does not give you your $$ back if you are unhappy - just a store credit MINUS 15% and $100 mattress disposal charge????

Keetsa's owner also sells non green tea mattress (and the metal frame) for much less than at Keetsa on a site call Bedzine.com

Why did I do all of this research? I hate being lied to --- and I think it is gross that companies like Keetsa are taking advantage of consumers trying to make a more healthy choice.

For budget natural latex (read truly non-toxic) check out:
Organicgrace.com ($975, and they are in Garberville)
Livefortomorrow.com ($899, certified organic/natural)

post #4 of 9

thank you for the info, I totally understand the dislike of misleading marketing, don't get me started on some companies.... thanks again for the info!!!

post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 

Hm, that's interesting information.

 

I certainly can't claim to be an expert on Walmart's options for natural bedding, but that's great they have some options.  One thing I like about the Keetsa mattresses is that they do use recycled and recyclable materials. 

 

From a few different listings of the Aerus mattress you mentioned, it doesn't look like they use recycled materials.  The manufacturer of the Aerus brand does list in the specs that "Environmentally friendly VPF production technology assures superior product quality and consistency" and it's nice that Walmart gives you "an eco-friendly, natural and washable bamboo cover with zipper."  But I'd be interested in reading a little more information on what actually makes the Aerus eco-friendly.  Unfortunately, the MSDS database that Walmart has does not include a sheet for Aerus (nor can I find it very readily via Google).

 

While there are clearly other options out there for eco-friendly bedding, I don't necessarily think it's far to say the Keetsa is lying to its customers.

 

And as for your reference regarding Keetsa's manufacturing in China...this comes from their FAQ:


We source our mattresses from an exclusive manufacturer in China. Our manufacturer has been producing mattresses for many large, well known companies and is very well respected in the industry and in the country of China. They were one of the first companies, several years ago, to ban PBDE's in the manufacturing process. The facility is a ISO 9001 factory, and provides their employees a fair, clean, well-organized and safe work environment and pays a living wage.

 

Doesn't sound like they're trying to pull the wool over any eyes on that front.

post #6 of 9

This Jepp person has spent the better part of a day of their life emailing and posting all over the internet and really has nothing to share except propoganda. As the Director of Keetsa, I would like to share a bit with the readers here....

 

 

SUPERGREEN WASHING!
SUPERGREEN washed ---

 

if you want this toxic product for 1/2 the cost - Walmart (dot com), also a few of the products can be found at HeartlandAmerica. (all of my price quotes are based on a queen size) also "whypaymoreshoppe" seller on eBay has excellent prices (I am not affiliated) 

 

Keetsa's 10" Cloud = $949.00 queen


Walmart's 10"" Aerus Natural Memory Foam Mattress =$529.88 - Not produced by Zinus.
Heartland's Theratouch Memory Mattress =$424.94 - Not produced by Zinus.
"whypaymoreshoppe" Classic 10" = $459.99 (free shipping) - Not produced by Zinus.

 

Keetsa's contour pillow $69.99
Walmart's Eco-Friendly Memory Foam Contour Pillow $27.88 - Not produced by Zinus.

 

Keetsa's metal bedframe: $229.99
Bedzine (same owner as Keetsa) metal bedframe $174.99 - This does not include the shipping cost, which is added on when customer is checking out.
Heartland's Smartbase frame: $109.98 (incl. shipping) - Has different structure and lower quality specifications.
Walmart's Smartbase frame: $99.99 - Has different structure and lower quality specifications.


Facts:

Keetsa's products are made a manufacture in China, Zinus (yes they have an office in Pleasanton). Zinus holds the patent on "Mattress-in-a-box". - Zinus is our supplier in China.

Keetsa is not a mattress company - they are a marketing company.  - Not true. We are registered as importer, retailer and wholesaler for mattress business.

 

Many vendors carry the 'non green tea' mattress-in-a-box if you don't want to pay $$$$ for literal green washing. (search "mattress-in-a-box)  - Keetsa carries unique products with Green Tea/Cedar oil in the foam and natural fabrications treated with natural Silver for antimicrobial. Keetsa also has just introduced a new bio foam that consists of 12% Castor Bean Oil with no detected VOC's, and is introducing a natural latex mattress by year's end. Keetsa continues to innovate great new green products.

 

If you use a mattress, pad and sheets --- and wash them, you don't need the green tea to 'freshen' your mattress. - Green tea extract is embedded in the foam, in the foaming process.  It is impossible to have a foam in green tea or any other water based element, to maintain its resilience.  Mattress inner foam spring, and the outer cover cannot be washed.  Washing mattress pad and sheets is not enough to keep the mattress clean. 

 

If Keetsa were truly concerned about the environment and their customers health they would post the chemical material declaration sheet of the mattress, as well as the VOC testing results. Any customer can come into our stores and ask for a VOC report.

 

Keetsa does not give you your $$ back if you are unhappy - just a store credit MINUS 15% and $100 mattress disposal charge???? - There is no store credit. All refundable amounts are credited to the customer's credit cards.  To keep our product retail prices low, we do not build customer return costs in the prices.  We do not resell returned mattresses, so there is $100 mattress recycling fee that we ask our customers to pay.  Again, these prices are not built into our retail prices, because we don't agree that one happy customer should be paying a part of the return cost of an unhappy customer

 

Keetsa's owner also sells non green tea mattress (and the metal frame) for much less than at Keetsa on a site call Bedzine.com  - Bedzine.com is operated with shipping cost charged separately, where as Keetsa.com products are offered at "free shipping".

Why did I do all of this research? I hate being lied to --- and I think it is gross that companies like Keetsa are taking advantage of consumers trying to make a more healthy choice. - Most of claims made above and products compared are not valid. 

Please keep in mind that we continue to strive to find new and inventive ways to improve our products and services. Thank you for your continued support of Keetsa! If anyone has any questions we will soon be posting this information on our website. You can also direct them to our certification from CoOp America.

post #7 of 9

WhyPayMoreShoppe's Classic10 IS made by Zinus, as are most of the mattress/bedding items in the store.

The name of this mattress (and the name of many of the bedding products I sell) has been changed to protect competitors selling it (& other items)) at a higher price...per the request of my supplier.

post #8 of 9

Keetsa's alternative is only slighly better than the nasty stuff on the market.  Instead of using 100% petroleum based foam Keetsa uses 88% petroleum based foam and 12% castor oil.  Granted it is a slight improvement over some of the poorly made and dangerous products on the market, but if Keetsa was truly concerned about health effects of VOCs and cancer causing chemicals, they would use natural latex based foam.  Keetsa claims that there are no detected VOC emissions from its foam mattresses.  Yet, this claim is based on a single testing report (posted on the keetsa website) from a questionable Korean based testing laboratory.  To get these results the laboratory tested a small piece of foam for a period of one hour using a questionable methodology.  VOC emissions occur over the lifetime of the mattress and can increase as the product begins to age.  Conducting testing in such a manner is at best inconclusive. 

If Keetsa is serious about reducing VOC emissions they should test an entire mattress, not just memory foam, under real life conditions for a period longer than 1 hour to determine what the emissions are.  These tests should also be performed at an accredited US based laboratory since their main market is the US and not Korea. 

As far as other mattress brands, there are only so many manufacturers of memory foam and most of them use similar processes.  Keetsa gets its foam from Zinus which manufactures it in China, and supplies numerous other brands.  You really have to do your research here.   Take a look at http://www.essentiadirect.com
which sells natural latex memory foam mattresses.  Their products are a little pricey but the website has a good overview of some of the issues involved with memory foam products.

post #9 of 9

I don't really know about Keetsa, but as a San Francisco resident, I'm aware of local mattress manufacturer that's been making organic mattresses right here in San Francisco for the past 30 YEARS.  They've been pushing soy foam, natural latex, and organic cotton long before I heard of anyone else doing it. Plus you aren't causing all the pollution and fossil fuel burning inherent in shipping things from over seas. It'll pay in the long run if we all do our research and buy as locally as possible!

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