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I have a problem with my A/C efficiency.  I have a 3 story house 2 floors plus a finished basement (really it's 5 different levels since it is a split level design).  Unfortunately it is a single zone for heating / cooling.  In the summer, all of the cool air from the AC sinks down to the basement and makes it very cold, whereas the bedrooms on the top level are still uncomfortably hot for sleeping.  I have all of the basement vents closed (but they still leak a little) and most of the 2nd level vents closed.  There are returns on all levels, but most of the intake seems to come from the second level vents that are closest to the furnace.

Any ideas on what I can do?  I would really like to knock the house down and build a green one from scratch, but that isn't very practical or economical.  Will blocking the returns on the 2nd and 3rd levels in the summer help or will that make the blower work harder and burn out?  I tried a window A/C unit in the bedroom, but it is too noisy to sleep when it is on.  The AC is on a programmable thermostat that lets the upstairs temperature get up to 83 during the day before turning on but it then has to run all evening just to get the temperature down to 78 and has to stay on most of the time to keep it there once it hits that.  Meanwhile, the first floor is a relatively icy 70.  Would it be more efficient to not let the house get as hot during the day?

Thanks!
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You really need to find a local A/C person whose primary aim is not just to empty your wallet plus knows the business. This requirement excludes most servicemen unfortunatley.

Ducting leaks could very easily be a major problem in trying to get the air to flow where you want. It may well be hard to see where any leaks are. If the ducting runs through a hot attic you could be losing the coolness there.

If there are no doors/separators between floors it is only natural that all the cold goes to the basement. 

Roof/attic insulation can be a life saver - our attic which is finished is perfectly comfortable but the roof has R49 insulation + a radiant barrier and the roof covering is cement tile - all of which help keep the radiant affect of the sun from making an overheating problem.

With your elevation difference and if the orientation of the house is correct and if there are breezes possibly you can make use of natural draft for some cooling. Even though out temperatures are in the low 90's I have yet to turn on the A/C this year due to a breeze normally being available.  
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Thanks for the response.  I wish I new how to find a reliable and honest repairman!  Until I can, I prefer doing the work myself, though the results aren't always worth it.     The attic floor is fairly well insulated, except for the attic stairs.  Most of the ductwork is in the walls or floors and doesn't run into the attic.  I did some experiments yesterday with covering various returns and nothing worked- the temperature actually climbed while the A/C was running.  Using a fan to blow air up the stairs seemed to work.  We can get decent breezes through the house, but even they can't make it tolerable when the humidity is 80% plus. This may not be worth worrying about as my summer electric bill is only about $30 more than typical.  Based on what I hear from others in my area, this already sounds pretty efficient.
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This may not directly relate to the problem described, but I hope it provides some insight into some possibilities for cooling. Amcor Plasma Cool with No-Drain technology is generating some sensation in the portable air conditioner industry. This is a real “no-drain” ac – never needs draining unless you are storing it away after season. For what it delivers at 14,000 BTU covering up to 500 sq. ft. it is not expensive at $599 (free shipping). I found a lot of good information including videos at www.plasmacoolportableac.com.  This site helps in making a decision re portable acs in general as well.
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Hi summer2009, Welcome to the ecohuddle!

While the Amcor Plasma Cool unit does not need draining it does have to be connected to an outlet by the vent pipe - that is where the water goes. When air is cooled water vapor condenses - fact of science and no way around it. Without the drain you will have a big mess. The unit is not really portable to carry from room to room - unless you keep the hose connected..

The company claims an EER (efficiency rating) of 12.73 which is on the low end the range anymore. Any lower would definitely be bad.

They have many claims on their site which are the typical advertising along with the typical recommendations which are all great - should be or they wouldn't put them on the site.

All said and done, the unit would have uses but is on the low end of efficiency and does require a drain even though it is a larger diameter vent pipe.
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