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post #1 of 5
3/11/08 at 3:57pm
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Gas was already expensive enough'then'.

 

Ok, my passion used to be fixing jets and related equipment. Now that I am an old retired cripple, my new passion has become alternative fuels. Furthermore, I'm not satisfied with the idea that alternative fuel means you have to drive an ugly, underpowered car. that gets a whoppin ten or twenty more miles per gallon and costs thousands more to buy and maintain. Hells no.

 

So, because I feel like it, I'm gonna just write a list of ideas and I would love to hear other ideas. I used to make too much money, so I was too distracted as a lot of people are by all the things in life that steal yer attention. Gotta get gas, drive to work around construction, finish whatever project at work, shop for groceries, mow the lawn, do the laundry, do homework with the kids or yer own even, make lunches, bathe the dog, fix the swingset, clean out the gutters, and on and on and on. Sitting on the couch for an hour to watch some mindless entertainment can be all you want. Then, you get up and do it all over, with variations of course, the next day.

 

1. improve public transportation so that people would actually use it. Buses, trains, ferry's, etc.

 

2. Stop allowing people to sit, alone, for a half an hour or more, burning gas, before picking up their kids from school. Improve the buses so that these spoiled a** kids can ride the bus.

 

3. More carpool lanes, and a system to enforce them, to limit the number (frickin millions) of people sitting in a 12 mpg SUV by themselves, burning countless gallons of gas and causing unnecessary congestion.

 

4.  Develop multiple alternative fuels so there is no opportunity for the natural monopolies we now have. This would include not only transportation, but home energy, grocery refrigeration/lights, etc.

 

5. The internet really seems to be a positive force in this new world economy we have. It is helpful for bringing some of the more retarded communties up to the level of comfort, security, health, etc. that the rest of the world enjoys.

 

Ok, I'm tired of writing, so I will stop now. I has been on this pooter too long now.

 

John


Edited by stins - Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:17:40 GMT
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post #2 of 5
3/11/08 at 5:56pm

John,

 

I couldn't agree any more with your assessment that public transport could use some love. In the Bay Area, there are at least 3 different train systems: CalTrain, BART, and MUNI. There's nothing more frustrating than getting off at a transfer station and having to buy a completely different ticket and wait for another train. It has kept me from taking the train on more than one occassion.

 

If done right, public trains can be unbelievably good. In Japan, they had an entire year where not a single train was late by more than a minute. That's crazy, but such a luxury to be able to count on it as a viable means for transportation.

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post #3 of 5
3/11/08 at 6:31pm

I bicycle so much more now than I used to. In the summers (S.W. Florida)  it's really too hot here, heat stroke would insue, but this winter I'm biking it more than ever. Even though I'm Florida born and raised...the summers kill me. Ugh.

 

The town I live has a HORRIBLE mass transit, if you can call it that. And the traffic lights are poorly timed, thus I believe increasing gas consumption.

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post #4 of 5
7/2/08 at 10:11pm

One thing that can be done is to purchase and use Ethos Fuel Reformulator,and spread the word about it. Why? Well because it's been proven to increase gas mileage in commercial fleets by 7-19%. Some people even do better. It also reduces emissions an average of 30%. It's cost effective and it's easy to use. You just add a little to your tank when you fill up.I  am trying to spread the word about it and make a buck too. I'm looking for some help in spreading the word,and making a buck.Municipalities are starting to use this in all trash trucks and city vehicles.The surface is not even scratched yet with the potential for this. get more info at www.forearthonline.com/darrylg  thanks, Darryl Green

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post #5 of 5
7/3/08 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by singerdg1:

One thing that can be done is to purchase and use Ethos Fuel Reformulator,and spread the word about it. Why? Well because it's been proven to increase gas mileage in commercial fleets by 7-19%. Some people even do better. It also reduces emissions an average of 30%. It's cost effective and it's easy to use. You just add a little to your tank when you fill up.I  am trying to spread the word about it and make a buck too. I'm looking for some help in spreading the word,and making a buck.Municipalities are starting to use this in all trash trucks and city vehicles.The surface is not even scratched yet with the potential for this. get more info at www.forearthonline.com/darrylg  thanks, Darryl Green


 

I have to say, I'm rather skeptical about your product.  Mainly because the claims made about it haven't been scientifically tested.

 

I did some brief research and found a website where an engineer examines products like this.  In his review of Ethos, the basic conclusion is that some of the claims are plausible (others aren't), but while it may improve mileage and emissions in diesels, it probably doesn't have much effect in gas engines.  And the bottom line is that the company didn't do any scientific research to prove their claims, which is what I always look for.  They're relying on 'real-world' tests and testimonials, which are subject to lots of errors and bias.

 

It's an interesting review - I'd recommend giving it a read.  It's very thorough.


"Conclusion

  • The product was apparently primarily designed as a way to reduce diesel emissions

     

  • The theory does not, to me, seem to support expectations of large economy improvements

     

  • The test data is predominantly related to diesels, and predominantly smoke - economy improvement on gasoline engines does not automatically follow

     

  • CARB's largely negative results from testing D-1280X point to Ethos FR also being of limited benefit

     

  • The media reports seem inconclusive and their tests lack scientific rigour

     

  • Many positive statements made about the company have since turned out to be false

 

Based on this, and the fact that virtually every other "miracle" fuel additive brought to the market has failed to deliver the promised benefits, I am highly sceptical that Ethos really gives sufficient economy gain in typical gasoline cars to make it economically worthwhile.

As with all aftermarket fuel "saving" devices, my advice to Ethos is simple: if you believe in your product, spend 0.01% of your income on rigorous scientific testing to prove it really works. If you don't, sceptics - and quite possibly legal authorities - will draw their own conclusions as to why not."


Edited by dana1981 - Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:38:11 UTC
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