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post #61 of 108
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Like MY Essence.

depending on your total, orders can receive free shipping.

but i know what you mean, shipping is a pain. i wait until my order reaches the "free shipping" stage before placing it.

 

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Originally Posted by Amanda Goldman:

Thanks OrganicGal!  Yeah, I read on Dr. Bronners page that if you use it as a shampoo your hair will be stringy and I figured it would not work well for my hair.

 

I'll look into the Miessence, hopefully I can find it locally.  (I hate paying shipping fees).  Is that pronounced Me Essence (like mi casa) or My Essence?

 

post #62 of 108
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Originally Posted by organicgal007:

If you girls are talking about John Masters products...I am a bit disapointed. I do have his products on my Real list, because at the time when I first got involved in his products they were ALL clean (to my crazy snoby standards) but recently someone pointed out to me that his products are not all clean. So I went back to his website and did some searching. I don't know if they reformulated some stuff, or added new products, but he surely uses 1 or 2 ingredeints of  concern. And now for the life of me, I can't recall what product it was or what the ingredient(s) are. All in all, he has a great line of products. and if I remember correctly, the "bad" ingredients weren't major no no's they were pretty minor. But if you want to be a purist...just check the label to be sure. That's my rule of thumb for any new product I try. I never believe the front of the packaging and take the marketing as truth.

 

Hm, that's too bad they're not 100%.  I'll try to figure out which products are the ones to look out for!

post #63 of 108
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I just added a (new to me) product line called Sexy Hair Organics to my FAKERS part of the list.

Suki & Devita to my REAL natural's list

 

For those of you keeping tabs.

:-)


Edited by organicgal007 - Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:21:05 GMT
post #64 of 108

Hi there, just want to let you know about dollop TM all-natural hair styling pomade. I formulated it myself from plant oils and beeswax (most of the ingredients are organic).
I'm a professional aromatologist based in New Zealand, and I stand by its production every step of the way. Am happy to share the full list of ingredients with you if you like?

As far as New Zealand goes it is the only all-natural hair styling pomade on the market!
You are welcome to check it out & also ask questions via my web site www.dollophair.com
Thanks for the great resource,

cheers Eleanor

post #65 of 108
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More Products

and educational info added to the original post!

post #66 of 108
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Originally Posted by organicgal007:

Organicgal's List of Fakies and Not Fakies

 

I do commend companies who use organic ingredients, because this is great for the planet! I wish all companies used more organics. However,  I do not think combining them with chemicals and synthetics is good for the planet or for people. Some body care chemicals are toxic to create, while others are toxic to our health. So if a company is using organics and synthetics in the same product, one has to wonder...who's interest do they really have in mind?


I'm only judging products/companies for their personal body care lines (ie. shampoos, lotions, cosmetics, etc)

  • Body care is not a regulated industry.
  • The USDA Organic regulations/laws only extend to food items or body care items that are food grade. 
  • Because of lax regulations a body care company can use the word Organic or Natural any way they want, regardless of if they threw in chemicals and synthetics to the final product.
  • For a company to display a label that reads "Made with Organic ingredients" the product must carry 70% or more organics with no restrictions on the other ingredients.
  • For a company to display the USDA organic label, it must have 95% or higher organic ingredients with the other 5% being from an approved list.
  • To carry the new Natural Products Association Label the natural product must only contain pre-approved naturally derived ingredients.
  • The Eco-Cert label has fallen under scrutiny lately, for allowing synthetics in products (which is against it's own rules) with many interest groups now not trusting the integrity of the EcoCert  logo.

 

The list is just below this last paragraph!


If you work for a company on my fake list and you are mad i put you there, contact your company and yell at them, not me. I did my research thoroughly and read ingredient labels carefully. It took me HOURS & Months to put together this list. I also work in the industry and am VERY familiar with many of these companies. (I've worked in the health and wellness field for over 6 yrs)

 

 

Fake Organics: these companies use synthetics and sometimes very little organics in their finished product.

  • Jason pure natural organic
  • Avalon Organics
  • Derma E Organic Expressions
  • Alba Organics
  • Head Organics
  • Juice Beauty
  • Giovanni (they use PVP which is vinyl)
  • Sexy Hair Organics. (horribly more toxic than Giovanni & Head Organics put together)
  • Organix
  • Pharmacopia Organic
  • Babywise Organics

 


Fake Naturals:
these companies claim they are natural or "safe" or "wellness" ; but use synthetics in their products.

  • Tom's of Maine
  • Method
  • Derma E
  • Zia
  • Alba
  • Melaleuca (true they claim to be the "wellness company" not natural...but many of their well meaning reps label them as natural. also...last time I checked synthetics and chemicals did not do my body good, nor would I call it part of "wellness".
  • Shaklee
  • Arbonne (their baby line is horribly toxic). the company itself doesn't claim to be all natural, but many of their well meaning reps do. this is why i've added them to my list)
  • Pure and Basic
  • Healthy Times baby line
  • Harpswell
  • EO
  • Bare Minerals
  • Nature's Gate
  • Kiss my Face
  • The Body Shop
  • Huggies/Pamper naturals. "Yeah, right." yes that was sarcasim
  • Aveeno
  • Arm & Hammer Essentials Deodorant (they test on animals, this alone is enough to boycott them)
  • Korres Natural Products
  • Mill Creek Botanicals

 


Real Organic: no synthetics; never ever.

  • Earth Mama Angel Baby
  • Miessence Organics (food grade, carries USDA label)
  • Pangea Organics
  • Nourish (food grade, carries USDA label)
  • Bottled Earth Company
  • Oracle Organics
  • Eco-Beauty Organics
  • Sun Dog
  • Dr. Bronners
  • Gratefulbody Organics
  • Badger Balm
  • Perfect Organics
  • Organic Essence
  • Trillium



Real Natural: though they might not use all organic ingredients, their finished product has NO added synthetics.

  • Mychelle (if you don't go organic, at least use this line. They are great!)
  • Earth Mama Angel Baby
  • Zum (by indigo wild)
  • Aubrey Organics, (they are not on my organic list because not all products are fully organic, though they never use chemicals or synthetics in finished product)
  • Bon Vital's natural line
  • Weleda
  • Eminence
  • Mexitan
  • Dr. Bronners
  • Badger ( has been moved to the real organics list...they just got USDA label)
  • Ilike
  • Suki
  • Devita (* A Vegan Line)

 

confusedHit & Miss/ Murky Companies. (These companies have some products that are really clean and other products that are not. Read Labels and know what you are choosing before you spend the $$. be on the look out for: Phenoxyethanol, Dimethicone, Disodium EDTA, PEG's, Parabens, Urea, Propylene Glycol, Cocamidopropyl Betaine...if those are in it, stay away. )

  • EO: natural and organic products are mostly on my fakers list, though their lip balm is really organic
  • Desert Essence: mostly on my fakers list with the exception of their pure oils and castile face soap, essential oils; those are truly natural and some even organic
  • Aura Cacia Very Hit and Miss. Their certified organic line of esseintial oils are the bomb though, VERY high grade and very clean!
  • Eco-Bella. All of their body care is 100% clean, but their cosmetic line still carries several ingredients of concern, including parabens.
  • Burt's Bees
  • Desert Essence
  • Ikove
  • Beeceuticals
  • Honey Bee Gardens


Update (1/12/09)

 

Please check out www.organicconsumers.org/bodycare for a great petition and more info on the bad companies.

 

My resources (not only for this list, but for so much in life):

 

BOOKS

*Silent Spring-by Rachel Carlson

*Green Living- by E/The Environmental Magazine
*The Natural House & Nat. House Catalog- by David Pearson
*The Live Earth Global Warming Survival Handbook: 77 Essential Skills to Stop Climate Change- by David de Rothschild
*Earth in the Balance- by Al Gore
*Living Green: A Practical Guide to Simple Sustainability- by Horn
*The Green Book: The Everyday Guide to Saving the Planet One Simple Step at a Time- by Rogers/Kostigen
*The Consumer's Guide to Effective Environmental Choices: Practical
Advice from the Union of Concerned Scientists
*The Organic Suburbanite : An Environmentally Friendly Way to Live the American Dream by Warren Schultz
*Naturally Clean: The Seventh Generation Guide to Safe & Healthy, Non-toxic Cleaning by Jeffrey Hollender

* Baking Soda   and seperate title: Vinegar both  by Vicki Lansky
*The Naturally Clean Home by Karyn Siegel-Maier
*Healing Home Spa- by Cooksley
*The complete book of essential oils & aromatherapy- by Worwood
*Smart Medicine for a Healthier Child- by Zand/Rountree/Walton
*Prescription for Natural Healing- by Balch

*Physiology of the Skin by Dr. Peter Pugliese

*Common Drug Side Effects by Pamela Hill


Magazines/Journals
*Horticulture
*Organic Gardening
*Natural Home (sometimes seen as Nat. Home & Garden)
*National Geographic
*Mothering
*Organic Style (no longer in print, but if you can find back copies, worth a read)
*Body & Soul
*Organic Spa

*International Journal of Dermatology

*DermaScope

*Natural Beauty & Health

*Natural Health

*Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology

 

WEBSITES

* MSDS (material safety data sheets)

 

*http://www.treehugger.com/

 

*http://www.thegreenguide.com

*http://www.organic.org/

*
http://www.naplesbiofuel.com/

* http://www.organicconsumers.org/

*http://catalogcutdown.org/index.php

*http://forestethics.org/

* http://www.sociallyresponsible.org/

* http://www.ecogeek.org/

* http://www.environmentaldefense.org

* http://www.generationgreen.org/

* http://www.earth911.org

* http://www.care2.com

* http://www.emagazine.com/

 

 

UPDATE:

As of middle of March. the OCA and Dr. Bronner released shocking news about the personal care world.

Just last week the OCA is getting tough. Check out all this info. Seems 7th Gen, Method, and many others have gotten themselves in a bit of "hot water".

 

"Alert: Stop Bogus "Organic" Misbranding or Certification

To help remove some of this misleading organic labeling from the market, in late March 2008, the OCA and Dr.Bronner's filed Cease and Desist Letters to many of the bogus "organic" brands who utilize conventional and/or petrochemical material instead of organic material in making their main cleansing ingredients, some of whom even tested positive for the carcinogen 1,4-Dioxane in this study. Read the press release here and the Cease and Desist letter here.

USDA Organic SealMany of these companies misbrand “Organics” on their labels but consumers should look for products certified under the USDA like Dr. Bronner’s, because there are other weak so-called “organic” standards that a product can become "certified" under, which do not allow ethoxylation and 1,4-Dioxane, but allow hydrogenation and sulfation of conventional, not organic material, to make cleansing ingredients preserved with synthetic preservatives.

Two of these weak standards consumers should look out for are the Ecocert and OASIS standards; Ecocert actually allows certain petrochemicals in cleansing ingredients. Learn more here.

Surveys clearly indicate that when a product labels itself as "Organic" or is sold by a company with the word "Organic" in its brand name, consumers are willing to pay extra, because they believe that product does not contain cleansing ingredients made with conventional and/or petrochemical material, that may be contaminated with carcinogenic compounds like 1,4-Dioxane.

Surveys clearly indicate that when a product labels itself as "Organic" or is sold by a company with the word "Organic" in its brand name, consumers are willing to pay extra, because they believe that product does not contain cleansing ingredients made with conventional and/or petrochemical material, that may be contaminated with carcinogenic compounds like 1,4-Dioxane. " 

http://www.organicconsumers.org/bodycare/DioxaneRelease08.cfm

 

~ Susanna aka Organicgal 007

 

 

www.HealingWithOrganics.com My On-line Shopping Boutique

 


Edited by organicgal007 - Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:25:26 GMT

What an absolute wonderful, and helpful article/information.  Thank you so much, for taking the time out, and educating others.   You are to be commended.  I love how it was simple and straight to the point, with no mumbo jumbo. 
 

I have so many horrible products, hate to throw them away, but ones got to do, what ones got to do.  Only one I have that is worth keeping is My Chelle.   Will be going to get some others great products on your list you mentioned.    Thank you again. 

post #67 of 108

I want you to take a long, hard look at the list provided by organicgal007 (nice name by the way).  Some of the "fake" organic companies listed here also ended up on the FDA "badboy" list for having trace amounts of lead in their vitamins.  There are die-hard fans of some of these products (the company could do no wrong types) . . . but if you were to find that your favorite "organic" product line produced vitamins with lead, won't you want to switch?  Do some research on the products out there.  Be sure to test one's that you like, then decide for yourself what works best for you.  In the end, you will be a happier, more informed consumer.

 

Link for the FDA story:  www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/lead-vitamins-082803 


Edited by Patrick Dub - 3/3/2009 at 02:27 pm
post #68 of 108

 Pronounced "My Essence".  Good call on getting the order high enough for the free shipping.  I should look into that for myself.  For the most part, my shipping (even the big orders) haven't been more than $8 USD.

post #69 of 108
Thread Starter 

I have just alphabetized the list.

I will soon be adding links...so be on the look out for direct company links.

post #70 of 108
Thread Starter 

It is impossible for multi-vitamins to be 100% Lead Free.

Here's some info on that:

So here's what I got from reading that original data from the FDA and we talked about it thouroughly here at the store.

If you read the link Table 1. Summary fo Pb Results you'll notice that the PTTI (ugPb/day) coloumn shows what the ACCEPTABLE levels of lead are.

For young children 0-6yrs of age the ACCEPTABLE level of lead is 6 pb/day - NONE of the companies listed reach or exceed this limit. Infact, the highest level found in the tested vitamins was 2.88 & 2.24 all other vitamins fell under 0.89

For Older children 7+ yr the ACCEPTABLE level is 15 per day of the vitamins tested the highest amount found was 1.78.

For Pregnant/lactating women the ACCEPTABLE amount is 25 of the vitamins tested the highest was 8.97, 5.52, 4.73, and the rest falling 3 points and under.

For Adult women the ACCEPTABLE level is 75 with the highest level found in the vitamins tested at 4.92

Now, I'm not a fan of the fact that any levels of lead are present. I'm assumming there is a reason...so for that I did contact about 15 of the companies that were listed that I am familiar with to see what their replies are. With it being a holiday I won't hear back from them until about Tues or Weds. But I promise to cut and paste all their replies Here and on the other post so that you mommies can feel assured that your vitamins are safe (or god forbid, you need to dump them and change to another brand)

 

Here is the reply from Carlson (one of the company's I contacted)

"Dear Susanna,
 
Thank you for e-mailing Carlson with your concerns.  The reality is that ALL calcium dietary supplements on the market will contain at least very trace amounts of lead.  This is evident by fact that every calcium product tested contained at least detectable levels.  Lead is a naturally occurring earth metal that is found with minerals such as calcium and magnesium.  The real issue with calcium supplements is not whether lead will be present (it will be to some degree), but how much is present.  As long as the total lead level is below a threshold level of concern, a calcium containing product will be approved by Carlson’s Quality Control department.
 
Based upon the values given in the chart provided, Carlson for Kids contains 0.150 micrograms towards the permissible 6.0 micrograms for children 0-6 years of age.  This is 2.5% of the permitted safe daily intake of lead before safety concern is warranted.  Carlson Prenatal contains 1.47 micrograms of total lead towards the permissible 25 micrograms for pregnant women.  This is 5.88% of the permitted safe daily intake of lead before safety concern is warranted.  Both of these products contain very low levels of lead and are very safe when used as directed.
 
Reports like this can appear to be quite shocking.  However, it is important to remember that it is the dose that makes a poison.  Doses below a threshold level of concern are not problematic.  It is only when the tolerable daily upper limit is exceeded that toxicity becomes a concern.  For example, even distilled water is toxic in high levels because it causes hyponatremia!
 
Perhaps the most important statement from this survey is that ALL products tested were found to be below the PTTI level for the population that is meant to use these products.  Although the article appears to have a negative connotation, it is actually a testament to the purity of most calcium containing supplements.
 
Regards,
 
Timothy Johanek
Educational Coordinator
J.R. Carlson Laboratories, Inc.
(847) 255 1600

 

New Chapter's Reply

 

Hi Susanna
 
Thank you for your interest in New Chapter.  New Chapter is very pleased with the results of the lead testing conducted by the FDA on four of our products.  www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/pbvitami.html They revealed that not only does our suggested serving size contain a tiny fraction of the FDA's Provisional Total Tolerable Intake Levels of lead (27 mcg/day for pregnant women and 75 mcg for adult women), but they are also well below the proposed NSF International limits of 2.5 mcg/day and Canada's NHPD lim of <0.29 mcg/Kg body weight/day. 
 
It is important to keep in mind that lead is a naturally occurring element in Earth's crust and is ubiquitous the environment.   As such, low levels are almost always present in the food supply.  Because New Chapter's products contain whole food ingredients, it is virtually impossible to make them lead free.  However, we do use certified organic whole food ingredients which have been shown to contain lower levels of heavy metals.  Furthermore, as the FDA testing showed, the content of lead is well below that of most of our competitors and not considered a safety concern whatsoever.
 
We hope this information is helpful.
 
Best wishes,
 
Shauna Wall
Product Specialist/ Consumer Support
New Chapter, Inc.

800-543-7279

 

Also:

The World Health Organization (WHO) established the "tolerable weekly intake" level for lead obtained from food at 1.5 mg (1500 micrograms), corresponding to a daily lead intake of just over 0.2 mg (200 micrograms). Although many parts of the world have not met these standards, most countries, as in the U.S. have. Therefore, a non-pregnant adult who is consuming less than 200 micrograms of lead per day can feel secure that their food is safe.

In the U.S., current lead levels found in food range from 0.1 ppm to 0.3 ppm, and thus most foods meet the safe standards established by WHO. An American adult who consumes about 1 kg of food (which is average), with a lead level of 0.1 to 0.3 ppm in "clean food," consumes at between 0.1 to 0.3 mg (100 to 300 micrograms) per day. That is our current baseline, and is not thought to cause harm.

The adult body can eliminate 300 micrograms (and more) lead per day, preventing lead from concentrating and causing harm. Only high lead exposure leads to neurological problems in children (and fetuses), and high blood pressure in adults.

So if the FDA has 75 micrograms as an acceptable daily lead limit, this is actually much lower than what WHO considers to be acceptable.  I have to say, that makes me feel better.  I do, however, wish it listed a limit for children and pregnant women.

Also, I read that if you get enough calcium, iron and vitamin C, this will also help your body eliminate lead, so I would assume that these items found in the supplements would help to  "cancel out" the amount of lead.

Here's a link to the full article:

http://ezinearticles.com/?Lead-in-Our-Food?--Now,-THAT-is-a-Heavy-Meal!&id=1273476
post #71 of 108

ok thanks

post #72 of 108
Thread Starter 

I've added links to all the companies and also the bad ingredients the "faker" companies used that landed them on the "fakers" list.

post #73 of 108

Thanks sooo much for this list!!!  I do green women's products and for the home and other fun stuff. And I'll be honest with you, I was saying that some of the fakers were real. I'm gonig to use your list as a great guideline!!!

Saucy Salsita, AKA The Sexy Hippie - Because sexy comes in GREEN!
 

post #74 of 108

Glad to see you note the actual chemical ingredients in Aveda, Korres and LUSH products. I'm beyond tired of seeing these companies tout themselves as completely natural and make every magazine's "organic" it list.

 

I do, though, have to respectfully disagree with Alaffia. Alaffia's products are full of stearic acid and the owner is sadly a con artist. He swears his shea butter is Fair Trade certified, yet there IS no organization that actually certifies Fair Trade shea butter. His shea butter is ceritifed through a non-profit HE (the owner of Alaffia) created -- and his shea butter is the only one certified as Fair Trade. Very dishonest. It's kind of like owning a car company, then starting an non-profit agency that certifies only your cars as safe.

post #75 of 108

Thanks for the insight to Allafia. I will research further. I've worked with one of their reps for years, and had trust in the company, but will research it further. Thanks!

post #76 of 108

...just want to take some time to thank you again for such a fantastic list!  I have recommended this actual thread over at Treehugger (where I am a moderator on the forums) to those with questions about certain brands and even how such things are determined and certified.  ...I have heard positive feedback from those who checked it out.... which is good for Huddler as well.  :-)

 

Well done!  Keep up the good work.

post #77 of 108

USA FDA is not very strict on how cosmetic companies label their products regarding the terms "natural" or "organic." No product is "purely organic" or "purely natural" since they all contain some type of chemicals to prevent it from going bad.

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Originally Posted by NTxWriter View Post

thanks for your list and also for listing your sources.

 

It really aggrevates me that companies can use terms like "with organic ingredients" or "natural" and mislead consumers who don't know any better.

 

You always have to check the labels and know exactly what you're getting!

 

post #78 of 108

correct, that the FDA does little to protect us, since there is no regulation(s) on how the word "natural" is used.

 

however, when it comes to organics, there are some protections.

  • in order for the usda organic label to appear on a product (food or body care) the product must be 95% certified organic ingredients, the remaining 5% can be ingredients such as salt, minerals, clay, water...but not chemicals.
  • to carry the "made with organic" ingredients, the product must be at least 70% organic; the down side is that the other 30% can be junk, i.e. chemicals.

 

products carrying the usda organic label, do not have chemicals used to preserve the product, they contain natural preservatives like vitamins or herbs, etc.

 

it is a myth that you need chemical synthetics to preserve a product.

it is true, you do need a preservative system in place, but it does not need to be a chemical or synthetic. many, many companies successfully preserve products naturally without chemical synthetics! just look at my list...all those "good guys" don't use sythetic chemicals to preserve their products, and you don't have to store them in the fridge either. you treat them just like you would any other product you use.

post #79 of 108

I am new to this whole organic/natural lifestyle and a friend recently turned me to your website. I saw Nature's Gate on there and was comparing the deodorant to your list and I didnt' see any of the ingredients on your list in the deodorant - is it just certain products? Also, Hugo Naturals - they aren't aon any of your list - have you heard of them or checked into them at all?

Thanks for all you have done and continue to do!!

mom.1ntriplets@gmail.com

post #80 of 108

 

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Originally Posted by Robin-Lynn Semenecz Konopka View Post

I am new to this whole organic/natural lifestyle and a friend recently turned me to your website. I saw Nature's Gate on there and was comparing the deodorant to your list and I didnt' see any of the ingredients on your list in the deodorant - is it just certain products?


Looking at Cosmetics Database listing for Nature's Gate, it looks like they like some of their Organics Deodorants as 1's (Lavender & Aloe, Tea Tree & Blue Cypress, Lemongrass & Clary Sage).  But Nature's Gate does have other products that rate as highly as a 7 on their hazard scale.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Robin-Lynn Semenecz Konopka View Post

Also, Hugo Naturals - they aren't aon any of your list - have you heard of them or checked into them at all?

 

Hugo Naturals products are rated 1-2 on Cosmetics Database

post #81 of 108

I just joined today so I'm late in giving kudos for the original post but here they are anyway!

 

Another Natural Products company to add to the list:  Daisy Blue Naturals.  Rated on EWG and Skin Deep Database.

post #82 of 108

Burt's Bees is especially troubling because they go out of their way to tout the safe and natural (on their website they say that 1/2 of their products are 100% natural, which is baloney.  It is really more like 1/8).  Meanwhile, most of their products contain "fragrance"- a real toxic soup of synthetic chemicals.  Pangea Organics also uses quite a few synthetic ingredients, when looking at labels.  They only have 3 or 4 products that are all natural. 

 

You should also define what you mean by all-natural.  Many companies use vegetable emulsifying wax NF, for example, which is allowed by the Natural Products Association, but I wouldn't necessarily call it a natural ingredient, although it is safe.  Citric acid is considered a natural ingredient, but from everything I have read, it is made through a synthetic process.  Does it truly qualify as natural?

 

On the plus side, you should definitely add Keys to the list of true Natural companies.  Most of their line is also 85% organic. Wild Carrot Herbals, Zosimos Botanicals, and A Wild Soap Bar are also good natural companies.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions on natural dish detergent and laundry detergent?  We use Soapnuts for laundry, which are pretty good, but not great for whites.  Many dish detergents and other products, even natural brands like Jason, Kiss My Face, etc., are contaminated with 1-4 dioxane (see article here). We use MiEnviron which is decent but pricey.  I am wondering if there are any others out there.  Sal Suds contains SLS, so I won't use it.

post #83 of 108

Regarding "organic" skin care, I was an independent consultant for The Body Shop at Home for 5 years and even though they have great social values, they're SUPER slow on the uptake regarding removing parabens and other synthetic chemicals from their products. I've gone back to using the Botanical Line from Body Time in Berkeley (the ORIGINAL The Body Shop...) They've also written a great article on "organic and natural exposed."

 

 

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Edited by stins - 5/19/2009 at 05:10 pm GMT
post #84 of 108

Julie

Thank you for your commentary and for those who have replied.  It is wonderful to learn that there are so many out there concerned about the environment, what we have become, where we need to go, who we need to support or not.  I have just come on board with a line of products that are patented, enzyme based, all natural ingredients, totally green and will change just about anything they can to remain the greenest company around.  You might actually want to contact them to see if they would be interested in your organic line.  I'd be happy to get you to the right people to speak with.  In about a year I think they will be adding some hand lotions and shampoos, but first we need to educate the US households what toxins are doing to their environment at home including causing cancer, ADD, asthma, migraines, I think the list is becoming endless as more studies are done.  I would appreciate any feed back on my products www.wowgreen.net/10223.  The company uses recycled boxes, green ink, and is looking for more environmentally friendly packaging.  The containers are recyclable and/or reusable and much less costly than through a major outlet.  Plus you know what you are buying which is a big plus.  Thank you for checking it out and I hope you are pleased and I don't become a faker!  Susan

post #85 of 108

 

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Originally Posted by hibiscus View Post

 

Does anyone have any suggestions on natural dish detergent and laundry detergent?  We use Soapnuts for laundry, which are pretty good, but not great for whites.  Many dish detergents and other products, even natural brands like Jason, Kiss My Face, etc., are contaminated with 1-4 dioxane (see article here). We use MiEnviron which is decent but pricey.  I am wondering if there are any others out there.  Sal Suds contains SLS, so I won't use it.


I use Bio-Vert's dish detergent and laundry detergent from OnlyGreen.  It's biodegradeable, free of the "icky stuff", and works very well on whites.
 

post #86 of 108

I would like to add VADA Body Care to the list as a real organic and/or natural product line:

 

http://www.onlygreen.com/products-1/vada-world/

 

Here's a listing of the ingredients used:

 

Ingredients (A-R)

 

Ingredients (S-Z)

 

(Note:  The VADA product line is made available exclusively through OnlyGreen Independent EcoAdvisors.)

post #87 of 108

Onlygreenshop sounds like an Amway type organization to me. The only requirement is to pony up 179 USD to get their kit and start hustling - building your own pyramid.

 

Of course you do get your very own 'OnlyGreen Ecoadvisor' pin as part of the package.

 

If the dryer balls are typical of the product research they do then I wonder?

post #88 of 108

 

I want to add a company to the clean list. I work for Motherlove Herbal Company and we make certified organic plant based products for pregnancy, birth and breastfeeding. All ingredients are full disclosure – meaning everything in our products is on the label, which is not true for all companies. We are as clean as it gets and we are a very environmentally conscience company. Motherlove uses wind energy, we recycle and compost, and use recycled materials and corn starch for packing. I love working here; it is an awesome company that is doing a good thing for people and the planet.   www.motherlove.com

 Thanks for doing your research! It is so nice to see people realize that just having the word natural on a label doesn’t mean much. We all need to be aware of what we are putting in and on our bodies. Keep up the good work everyone.

post #89 of 108

I'm really new to all of this, thanks for taking the time to compose this list. I went to whole foods today and saw many of these brands and my mouth just dropped b/c ppl assume that everything is okie dokie in the store.  My rule of thumb, if i cant pronounce it and if it has a hyphen followed with a number, its likely to be bad.

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